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Kainzorus Prime

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November 25, 2011
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Alphabetical order? Edit

Since a talk page for a template is pretty much invisible, I figured I'd repost this here, so we can have an actual discussion about this:

"I don't have the issue with the chronology, but where was it said ordering by first name was wrong? And if so, why hasn't anybody fixed the Black Flag template? Also, why move North Atlantic back to the front? You can't argue that "North Atlantic" should go first because the second word begins with an 'a' :/ Same with moving New York to the back - 'n' comes before 'r' last time I checked the alphabet."
Finally, why remove the link to the ACRG memories template? As I said when I added it, I think it might be useful to have it there, as there's no easy way to reach the memories template if you don't know the name of a memory that appears in that particular game."

Thanks for reading. Crook The Constantine District 16:51, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

Crook, how do they do it in school? They list people alphabetically by last names, so there's no point in going out of our way to make up something silly like ordering by first names. Same deal with New York/North Atlantic - A's before Y. Memories, no other template has those, and Genetic memory is already linked.
I did the ordering by first name in the first place, until Sima said by last name is more commonly used, then I had flashback to school ordering. And I'll get around to re-ordering other game templates too. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie 17:39, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
Meh, I found first name neater as some characters don't have a last name. Very well. I think "no other template has those" is a bit silly - if it's useful, then why remove it? We can always add it to the other templates.
I still object to North Atlantic being listed first - shouldn't New York and North Atlantic just be listed under "n", rather than "a" and "y"? They're not people, so why list them like they are? (btw, shouldn't Elise come in front of Arno? "De la Serre" before "Dorian" right?) Crook The Constantine District 17:45, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
You make a point with locations. I excluded the whole "la" "de la" and others, since they basically just "of the" in translation, and went with "Serre", same with others. Doesn't help Frenchies have ridiculous tendency of super long, convoluted titles and names. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie 17:48, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
Alright, but remember to be consistent if you're taking that approach - Chevalier de la Vérendrye should be at the end then, right? Crook The Constantine District 17:54, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
No, that's a title, go by Louis-Joseph Gaultier and place it between F and H. Yes, it's convoluted, but still adheres to principle of actual last names. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie 18:02, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
Gaultier isn't a surname, I think, more like a middle name. I'd still go for "de la Vérendrye" as last name, judging from the brief browse I've done on the de la Vérendrye family on Wikipedia and elsewhere.
That, or include the Gaultier as part of the surname. Which would make it "Chevalier Gaultier de la Vérendrye"... that also sounds a bit clumsy actually :s Crook The Constantine District 18:45, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

Actually, Kain, all of the other game templates do have their memories linked under "Terms and gameplay". Just, FYI. --Zero-ELEC (talk) 20:36, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

Though we should acknowledge that those memories have been recently changed by you, Zero-ELEC, to link to the template, rather than a category. Not that I mind, I think it's a much better option :) Crook The Constantine District 20:42, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
To be fair, I only change the ones where linking to the category leads to the memories that aren't from the game. (I.e. Animus 1.28 for Assassin's Creed/Altaïr's Chronicles/Bloodlines, Animus Omega for IV: Black Flag/Pirates, Animus 2.0 for II/II: Discovery.) Most were already there. --Zero-ELEC (talk) 20:51, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

2da files for KotOREdit

Now that I've played a lot of Jedi Knight over the past month, it's time to get back to KotOR2. I was installing mods, and noticed that the "spells.2da" file from Ultimate Sound Mod could not be copied due to the "spells.2da" file from TSLRCM. Now, I know that I need the Kotor Tool to edit the file (I've got "spells.2da" open right now), but what exactly do I do in order to get the two mods running smoothly together? --The Crimson Eagle Intercom 23:54, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

Welp, you gotta compare what's different between the two, that's about it. Just blow up two 2da editor windows to fullscreen, open each file and then minimize-unminimize the other to see what's different, then copy the stuff from one to the other you want. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie 01:18, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
On inspection, I've concluded that the only difference is that USM only has two extra rows, and is exactly the same otherwise. So, would simply pasting it into the override not do too much harm? --The Crimson Eagle Intercom 17:27, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, you should be able to just overwrite it like that without issues. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie 17:33, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
That's good, because if I have to reinstall the game again, I'll go nuts. But I think I'll be fine this time, since I installed mods in a more strategic manner. By the way, when do you plan (if ever) on uploading the games to your YouTube channel? Since I've been uploading the soundtrack to YouTube, I've been dying to see someone with experience play the game. --The Crimson Eagle Intercom 17:37, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
Well, I'm waiting for a few particular mods. Namely the TOR-esque HK droids, and TFU Darth Sion. Might also delay on account of K1 Restoration approaching, but not sure about that one yet. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie 17:46, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
Not too sure why you'd want the TOR-style HKs. If anything, I'd mod TOR and change their HKs. But heck, we've all got different tastes. Also, what restoration of KotOR1? Other than Sleheyron, I wasn't aware that anything major had been removed. --The Crimson Eagle Intercom 18:02, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
Because quality. Also, shit's getting done. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie 18:54, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

Initiate Edit

Then what's the reason for removing it. It shouldn't be removed the interview shows that the Initiate and Research Analyst are different characters. --Cococrash11 (talk) 20:32, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

We have separate articles for those, and the contents of them clearly indicate the difference between characters. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie 21:23, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

That's funny coming from a couple of editors that can't even tell if Black Flag and Rogue's Research Analyst are different or not with substantial evidence. --Cococrash11 (talk) 01:35, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

They are different, and it is obvious from the game itself. Which is why we have Helix research analyst and Abstergo Entertainment research analyst articles. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie 02:19, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

If any of you editors bother to read and think hard on what I wrote on Talk: Initiate why would Alexandre Amancio say in the Interview that the Initiate and Research Analyst are different characters. If that's case why wouldn't they also have an Assassin's Creed interview saying Black Flag and Rogue's Research Analyst are different characters like the Initiate. --Cococrash11 (talk) 02:30, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

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