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Jupiter's relation to Desmond[]

I'm just throwing this out as an idea, but what if Jupiter is Desmond's First Civilization ancestor. He has to have one since he has a high concentration of their DNA. And since Jupiter was communicating with him through the synch nexus, he could be Desmond's ancestor...or not. Just throwing that out. (Ultraman468)

  • I think it's highly likely taking in the fact that not only was he communicating with Desmond through the sync nexus but he also wears a hood resembling the assassins' hoods (we know that the original assassins were human-First Civ. hybrids). Don't add anything along those lines to the page however, as it is not confirmed yet. There's always the possibility that a piece of Eden was involved as there was one in the vicinity of Desmond's comatose body. ArcLight3712 19:23, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Jupiter?[]

I am aware that Jupiter is the Roman name for Zeuss, but wasn't he only refered to as Tinia, one of the Etruscan names for Zeuss? I don't remember them ever calling him Jupiter. I realize Juno said they have many names, and that this is one of them, but if it wasn't used, shouldn't the article be named Tinia? Or did they at any point start refering to him as Jupiter? I just can't recall this being the case. 98.217.230.157 16:35, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Would you like me to set up a vote? Crimson Knight Intercom 16:42, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

He is refered to as Jupiter by Minerva in Assassin's Creed II. I don't see the need to put his Etruscan name in aside Minerva and Juno, who possess their Roman mythological names, all because some Ubisoft developer can't be bothered to check their own canon. Slate Vesper (talk) 16:58, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I also prefer Jupiter. But, to me, what I want is irrelevant. Crimson Knight Intercom 17:01, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
I think it should be changed to Tinia as Assassin's Creed III is more recent canon and could be seen as a retcon of his name. I don't think think the "Estrucian" argument matters anymore as they have more recently introduced Aita. Abelzorus Prime (talk) 18:49, August 19, 2015 (UTC)
It's not really a retcon. Minerva herself mentions that they are known under several different names.--Bovkaffe (talk) 18:57, August 19, 2015 (UTC)
I know but it can be seen as one. He was called Tinia through out Assassin's Creed III though, so an argument can be made. Abelzorus Prime (talk) 19:14, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

"The others, too: Juno, who was before called Uni. Jupiter, who was before called Tinia..." Indicating it's not his most recent name. I'm also pretty sure the name "Tinia" is only mentioned once in the entirety of AC3 so I don't find that a very strong argument. -- Master Sima Yi Talk 12:05, August 20, 2015 (UTC)

Plus, he refers to himself as Jupiter in the Revelations novel.--Bovkaffe (talk) 17:43, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
I don't really take the canon in the novels seroiusly compared to the games, they always get so many things wrong. What I got from Minerva's speech is that Tinia and Uni were their birth and official names, but when they died people called them by their Roman names. The fact that Juno reffered to him as Tinia seems to me that it is his proper name, but I think we should leave this discussion open and see how they refer to him in future instalments. Abelzorus Prime (talk) 20:10, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
Whether you take the canon of the novels seriously or not is irrelevant, as they are still canon. As for the name of the article, if only for consistency (and since "Jupiter" is the 'latest' name he was known by), that is where the article should remain, in my opinion. He may have been called Tinia exclusively during his lifetime, but he was referred to by his Etruscan name during the years after his death; as was Merva and Uni.
Also, in response to your earlier point about it being a "retcon"; it's not. The name Tinia is first mentioned in AC2, so it is not new by any stretch of the imagination when the name is again mentioned in AC3. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 23:40, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
I know it was mentioned in Assassin's Creed II, maybe I'm using the wrong word by saying "retcon". Abelzorus Prime (talk) 23:57, August 20, 2015 (UTC)

Add to that that your original argument was the Jupiter was the Roman name of "Zeus", which, considering ancient Greek was older than Etruscan civilization, would have been an older name than Tinia, hence not his original name. There's no clear indication that any of these names were their birth names either. I think most people seem to be in favor of keeping it as it is. -- Master Sima Yi Talk 09:29, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

Jupiter <> Zeus?[]

As per above, it seems there is no confirmation for that, Jasca. Which is what I've argued before. Sadelyrate (siniath) 12:29, May 28, 2019 (UTC)

In that case we should have a seperate article for Zeus, like we do for Neptune (and his Isu counterpart Poseidon). --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 13:04, May 28, 2019 (UTC)
Exactly. Working on it. Sadelyrate (siniath) 14:17, May 28, 2019 (UTC)
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