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Outfit[]

I love her Assassin outfit, it looks much better than Jacob's. Echoh98 (talk) 17:15, May 12, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure why, but Evie gives off an Assassin vibe much more than Jacob. It might be more than just the outfit; Jacob seems like a really jovial and boisterous guy. Which would make Evie the perfect person to rein him in at times (I hope). Crook ^{The Constantine District} 17:21, May 12, 2015 (UTC)

Still wish she was blonde. she gives off too much of a Hope Jensen vibe to me, which knits too closely with the street gang thing. Slate Vesper (talk) 17:59, May 12, 2015 (UTC)

Now that you mention it... a lighter haircolour would've set her and her brother apart a bit more from previous characters. The Assassin's Creed franchise doesn't really do "blonde", it seems (barring Edward and Lucy). I wonder why. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 18:16, May 12, 2015 (UTC)

Because environmental lighting goes apeshit with light hair. Have you forgotten Edward turning flaming ginger in the Tulum temple? --Kainzorus Prime ⚜ ^{Walkie-talkie} 18:21, May 12, 2015 (UTC)

I can take that risk if it means less brown-haired characters for the sake of it. But there's an interesting question, whur the gingers be at? Slate Vesper (talk) 04:58, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Evie possible mention in the Past[]

Since Evie is a form of the name Eve is it likely that she is the one Thoes Who Came Before were talking about to Aveline de Grandpré when they said find EVE, Eve will lead the way. This could also be why she seems like such a leader. Anyones thoughts on this?

The recording Aveline views is from people living at the time of the First Civ, that elect Eve as the leader of the rebellion. They don't talk about finding Eve. I don't think that particular message has anything to do with Evie Frye. And yeah, Evie is the brains of the Rooks, but it's probably Jacob's charisma that allows them to lead. That's just my guess anyways. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 15:40, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

Image[]

Do we really need the same promotional image three times on the page? -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 11:53, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

... I guess not >.> I'm deleting a duplicate off Jacob's page as well then though. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 12:00, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Evie's Chameleon Power[]

I have not heard of one person who thinks that this is a good idea, turning your protagonist literally invisable? this will deter social stealth.

What is the logical explanation for it, the animus? Does anyone actually like this?Hassan-i Sabbā (talk) 11:29, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

The logical explanation for it is that she does not turn invisible. Her going translucent is merely a visual indication to communicate to the player that Evie is staying still, controlling her breathing, hiding in the shadows, all that jazz. She is blending with the environment. The "turning invisible" is no different from previous Assassin turning grey when blending with civilians.

Do I like it? Not particularly, but it's an unlockable skill late into the game, so odds are I'll just ignore it like I did with the Disguise ability in Unity. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 11:35, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I think Ubisoft just used the wrong word, Evie doesn't turn literally invisible but merely blending in with her environment to the extent that people dont notice her anymore. The website says that a "true Master Assassin" can do this. I also dont like it and even though she doesnt turn invisible, I think that SOMEONE can eventually spot her especially is she's in a not-crowded place full of aware and careful guards. Misphantom (talk) 12:42, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

I feel like it would be alright if the ability only worked at night and in dark places, but apparently it works in daytime as well, which is a bit silly. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 12:48, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

Not being racist here, but Evie is also white and i think that white people will have a harder time blending in dark places and shadows. And daytime? Come on, i wonder if Ubisoft will make excuses... I just cant imagine a guard not noticing a suspicious looking lady just crouching still behind a table or something wearing robes and all RIGHT BESIDE HIM Misphantom (talk) 12:59, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

That's why she wears dark clothing ;)

But really, the entire blending mechanic is built upon Willing Suspension of Disbelief. Realistically, Ezio in his Roman robes would easily be picked out of a group of people. Evie staying still and blending with her environment just stretches your disbelief a bit further. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 13:04, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

Evie's necklace[]

Hi!

In one of the promotional photos for Syndicate, we can see Evie wearing a necklace, not a normal one, but a Piece of Eden. Maybe it's made from the First Civ metal, and be categorized as a Shard of Eden. To avoid copyright issues and all that, i'll give you the Link to the page: http://www.3djuegos.com/20900/assassins-creed-syndicate/

It's in Spanish, so... look for the part that says "Imagenes de ACS" DipsonDP (talk) 18:26, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

We already have that image on the wiki. According to Access the Animus, it's a character customization item called Boudicca's Torque (a neck ring belonging to the Iceni queen). I don't think it's a Piece of Eden.--Bovkaffe (talk) 18:58, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Really? It looks so First Civilization though. And Lucy has it for some reason in the Gamescom demo and she's supposed to be the First Civ expert of the British Templars. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 22:22, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah. looks first civ to me. but maybe no. if it is the same necklace's as lucy's wonder how she got it though. ohhh maybe she's evie's descendant.Misphantom (talk) 01:28, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

I'm talking about Lucy Thorne. There's no way she could be Evie's "descendant" because she's probably older than Evie :s Crook ^{The Constantine District} 07:38, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Lol, Crook. I thought it was Lucy Stillman u were talking about XD Misphantom (talk) 12:13, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Haha, that's why you should read the whole sentence :P Crook ^{The Constantine District} 12:24, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Gallery[]

Tried my hand at editing the tabbed gallery. How does it look with the new additions?

Jetfire343 (talk) 14:19, October 23, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Jetfire - that strip of bright red is a bit of an awkward choice though. We generally don't have the outfit images on the characters' pages themselves, they'd go on the Assassin's Creed: Syndicate outfits article instead, so we might need to move these. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 22:20, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

Full name[]

Do we know Evie's full name? It's possible that her name is just Evie, yes, but do we know if it's short for something? Evelyn? Evangaline? An affectionate spin on Eve or Eva? Yvonne or even Geneva if we're reaching that far? Julia-B184 (talk) 20:02, October 25, 2015 (PST)

To our knowledge her name is just Evie. GamerSophie (talk) 03:28, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

Proposal[]

Okay, I did something on the game after I collected all the flowers and Henry proposed to Evie?! You can watch a video of someone else getting the same thing if you don't believe me! Assassin's Creed Syndicate - Henry proposes to Evie - GamerSophie (talk) 14:09, October 28, 2015 (UTC)

Robe Colors[]

From the Trivia on the wiki:

Evie and Jacob are the third and fourth Assassin protagonists from a main instalment to wear robes whose primary color is not white, the other two being Arno Dorian and Shay Cormac while he was still allied with the Assassins.

Didn't Ezio wear a dark blue / grey robe in Assassin's Creed: Revelations?

128.199.176.29 08:06, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Ezio did wear robes that were mainly white in AC2 and Brotherhood though, so I guess that's why we're not counting him? Crook ^{The Constantine District} 08:10, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Blue-eyed Assassin from Brahman[]

Now that we know that Miss. Evie Frye was in fact Mrs. Evie Mir, I wonder if it can be assumed that the Blue-eyed Assassin ancestor of Monima Das, active at some point between 1839 and 2013, and featured in the Assassin's Creed: Brahman comic is Evie ? Or maybe Henry and Evie's daughter, even if the chances of having a blue-eyed offspring with one of the parents originating from the Indian Subcontinent are very low...Maxattac (talk) 07:59, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

At this point, I'm kind of doubting Ubisoft manages to plan that far ahead, but who knows. There's no definite proof though, so we can't put it in trivia anywhere. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 09:37, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

But that person is more or less the descendant of Evie. Henry Green is the only known children of Arbaaz and Pyara so Monima probably comes in Evie's line. Misphantom (talk) 11:14, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, Evie is most likely in Monima's line, but we have no idea when the blue-eyed Assassin (I doubt it's Evie herself, considering there's no freckles) lived, so she could be a few generations after Evie even. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 11:27, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

That woman also appeared in the third issue of The Fall, on the first page, amongst the various Assassin cells that Daniel has visited. See here. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 11:21, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

Ancestor of Monima?[]

Is it really speculation that Evie is an ancestor of Monima? We know Monima is a descendant of Pyara and Arbaaz, and as far as I know, those two only had one child, Henry (The Underworld novel doesn't mention any siblings, does it?). Since Henry obviously hooks up with Evie, it seems only logical to me that the line continued through their child(ren) all the way to Monima. Am I missing something here? :s Crook ^{The Constantine District} 11:36, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah I agree. Its a huge possibility. Its only a conclusion though and no definite proof. So far we don't have anyone else we can track in Monima's ancestral line. Unless Henry breaks up with Evie in the future and then boom have a set of kids on another girl Misphantom (talk) 11:51, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

We have to assume she and Henry did have children which led to Monima. Where do you think they got Evie's genetic memories from? Unless something freaky happened between the twins... GamerSophie (talk) 14:07, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

I agree it makes complete sense that Evie is Monima's Ancestor, and In fact would be surprised if it were not the case, however for the time being it is speculation. Until such time that someone outright says "Henry and Evie are Monima's Ancestors" it is probably best not to declare it on the page . This is the Same wiki that Says Isabelle Ardant is not dead until proven after all. This is just my 2 cents though. :)

17:14, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

In our defense, I did ask the writer of Syndicate's Modern Day on twitter to clarify whether or not Isabelle actually died, but he wouldn't answer because a lot of people still haven't played the game. I'll bug him about it after Christmas, and maybe we'll get an anwer then. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 17:30, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

We need to bug him about Evie being Monima's ancestor to confirm it as well. BUT we can also assume that it's a different ancestor they have gotten the memories from, we can't just think that Evie had one child who had one child who had one child who had one child and so on. GamerSophie (talk) 17:41, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

The only situation I can think of in which Evie is not Monima's ancestor is if Evie and Henry broke up sometime after Syndicate and they both got new lovers. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 18:01, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Concerning Evie's offsprings with Henry, we will probably have more information with the Jack the Ripper DLC, since it has been confirmed that Evie will be the main character. There will probably be an updated database entry about her life added in the extended game.Maxattac (talk) 18:04, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

What happened to the good old days in which not every purposefully-left-vague subject was asked about to the writers? -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 18:10, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Weellll, if that's the case, he can just say "we purposefully left it vague" :> Crook ^{The Constantine District} 18:46, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Has it been confirmed if Jacob will be a main character as well? GamerSophie (talk) 18:54, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Going kind of off-topic here, but no. There was a quick excerpt with the Season Pass (I didn't get it, so it's probably only for people who actually bought the Season Pass already) that says Evie is asked by Scotland Yard (presumably via Abberline) to put a stop to the bloodthirsty madness of Jack. No mention of Jacob. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 18:58, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, sorry-(but it didn't tell me as I have the Season Pass aswell)-going off-topic (still a bit strange Jacob isn't a playable character unless he's out of London or he is Jack himself) but they will probably tell us if she had children, when and their names and if they appear in the DLC itself (I'm so excited!). I hope they do say in some form that Monima is Evie's ancestor or someone else is. GamerSophie (talk) 19:02, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

No entry about Evie's life after 1868 in the DLC (Why ?? even Jacob who is not the main protagonist have one...), so still no definitive answer about her status regarding Monima Das. But since Jayadeep is an only son and since Evie was the wife of Jayadeep for at least 20 years in the DLC, for me it seems safe to assume that Evie, Ethan and Cecily Frye are ancestors of Monima Das. Maxattac (talk) 16:41, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

Except Jeffrey Yohalem said in his podcast with Loomer that Evie wasn't an ancestor of Monima. Which to me sounds like total bullshit, so I'm not taking that as canon until stated so in a piece of AC media. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 16:47, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

Now that it has been two months after Syndicate's release I think it is safe to ask the writer if Evie is an ancestor of Monima and I want to know if they made characters up to be the ancestors of the twins in which Abstergo retrieved their memories. Maybe Emmett Frye isn't Jacob's son but the ancestor they got his memories from and they placed it in the game to tell you. GamerSophie (talk) 16:50, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

She's not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBIkGNJMkaU&feature=youtu.be&t=1h11m41s Lionheartedcat (talk) 18:18, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

Interviewer: Is Evie an ancestor of Monima Das, the Indian actress from AC: Braham?

Yohalem: No.

I'd say that's pretty conclusive. klad (talk) 19:16, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

Yet, there's nothing indicating that Evie's relationship with Henry went south, nor that Henry has any siblings through which the genetic line has continued, so I do wonder how Yohalem thinks that the genetic line did continue :/ Crook ^{The Constantine District} 20:55, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

Well he is the lead Writer for Syndicate, so it must be true. But there is something indicating that Evie and Henry didn't marry and have children; Evie left India and never returned, and there is no indication that Henry joined her in later years. GamerSophie (talk) 21:24, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

Just because he's the lead Writer doesn't mean he can't be wrong; he went back and forth on the piece of Eden in Dead Kings being an Apple (and was like "well they make them in different sizes" when people asked why it was so much smaller), was apparently pretty adamant about Clay not being related to Ezio (which we know is not true) and generally doesn't seem to hold 'lore' in a very high regard. Also, GamerSophie, we don't know if Evie never returned; her whole life after Jack the Ripper up until training Lydia is a big ol' blank. Just because there's no information on Henry, doesn't mean that he wasn't a part of her life anymore. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 21:33, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

I agree that Yohalem isn't the most reliable authority on the lore, but is there anything indicating that Evie and Henry had any progeny or even lasted as a couple? There's at least Yohalem's questionable answer supporting the inverse of the former. Seems like waiting it out would be best; as logical as these assumptions are, they aren't quite concrete. klad (talk) 21:57, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

Oh yeah, no, I wasn't really advocating that we add something like "Evie is an ancestor of Monima Das" to the article, I personally just choose to ignore Yohalem's words on the matter lol. Since the game sets them up as such a feel-good happy couple, I would find it kind of weird if they'd be then like "oh they broke up lol", though I suppose it wouldn't be impossible. Without further information, it's as likely that Henry and Evie led a happy life together as that they split sometime after Syndicate and found new partners. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 22:13, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

We could ask someone else through Twitter to clarify if she is an ancestor of Monima. Now with that information on Yohalem then I still think she is an ancestor of Monima unless Henry had another child with someone else, but I don't see him doing that. GamerSophie (talk) 22:33, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

I know I came into the fandom late, so my response may not be necessary, but a few months ago, I was skimming some info from datamine content from ACS, and I mentioned this back on the JTR's talk page: There is a detailed timeline inside the game's data. Evie's timeline is very short compared to Jacob's, but it pretty much confirms that Evie's marriage with Henry was failing and they've been growing distant for years by the time JTR kicks off. If that's the case, as with most failed marriages, an inference can made with that information: Henry probably did marry someone else if his marriage with Evie didn't work out. As it is info taken from datamining, I'm not sure what the wiki's policy are when it comes using it as confirmation on the article, so unless someone was able to get clarification if Evie is Monima's ancestor from someone on the ACS team, that's the closest inference we can make based on the evidence in the game's data.--Ninja Sheik 00:40, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

India[]

The article says that Evie and Henry went to India in 1868. Do we know for a fact that they went that year? Evie's notebook is vague on the subject ('Henry has agreed to stay with me in London, for the moment. In exchange, I have agreed to travel with him to India in the near future'), but I'd assume from the mention of the agreement struck to stay in London that they worked there with Jacob for a while, rather than going to India straight away. 2.217.19.165 14:44, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

You're right. I'm pretty sure Jacob's database entry from the Jack the Ripper DLC confirmed Evie and Jacob worked together in London for a few years, before she journeyed to India with Henry. The article's still a work-in-progress (hence the revamp template at the top), so it probably still needs fixing here and there. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 14:47, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

Mentioned it on the JTR DLC's talk page (see above}, but there is detailed timeline in the game that can answer that question. Evie leaves London and heads to India in 1870, two years after the main events in ACS. In 1874, Jacob and his initiates visit Evie in India and stayed there for two years before returning to London.--Ninja Sheik 00:36, 14 November 2021 (UTC)