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The Wedding
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Conner never talk to with Lyle White and Lance O'Donnell after the wedding at all because I look for vidoe of this and find nothing.Tyraj (talk) 17:37, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
- He did, it was one of the interactive conversations. Nesty Contact me! 17:37, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
Connor Meeting Aveline Edit
How come we can't play as Connor on the 360/PS3 for his New York misson with Aveline? I mean, we can play it from his point of view on the Vita, so shouldn't it be the same for the major consoles? TranquilTempestQu'est-ce que c'est? 08:34, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
- No? It's likely between Sequences 8 and 9, or 9 and 10. THE CRIMSON EAGLE 15:53, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
- No, that doesn't happen. I've played through the game twice now, and she's seen the walkthroughs. Supreme Master AssassinO Mentoras 15:59, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
I'm afraid that's a mystery I've been trying to solve for the longest time... and well... it has no answer, other than to say "We're Ubisoft. We do things like that." Supreme Master AssassinO Mentoras 15:59, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
What are you talking about? I mean that the memory in Liberation is likely between two memory sequences in III, and is therefore irrelevant to the plot...
PS: Please don't move my messages; I was replying to Tranquil, not you. THE CRIMSON EAGLE 16:06, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
Well you weren't being specific so I was forced to improvise. Supreme Master AssassinO Mentoras 16:20, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
Race Edit
Shouldn't Connor's race read Native-american/ European America. After all although he grew up native american he is in fact half of each race.
70.197.165.163 15:15, February 2, 2013 (UTC})
He's Half Mohawk, Half English. Haytham was English and Ziio was Mohawk. Not much else to it to be honest.Trever09 A place for Chivalry | Blog 15:39, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
Romantic lifeEdit
Could everybody pleasce stop editing out the Romantic life part because we have Romantic life for all the other charater on here like his father,ezio, and altair and so on as example.Tyraj (talk) 00:00, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
While it is true that the other protagonists have romantic life sections, Connor's is not needed because it would just be a long paragraph basically stating that he doesn't have one. So, no, it will be removed. --NOSTALGIA TALK 01:59, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
Alternate timeline Edit
Ratonhnhaké:ton's experiences in TOKY should be in the main biography section, not an entirely new one, all of the other characters involved would be because they show no evidence of recalling the events of the main timeline or somehow crossing over the way he did, whereas this is the mainstream Connor in an alternate world in a canon storyline. everything else I've seen with stories like this include it in the main biography unless it's specifically non canon. For example you see it on magneto's page on both his wikipedia and marvel wiki pages, the events of House of M are part of his main biography despite being set in an alternate world.Gboy4 (talk) 14:24, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
- No. This isn't wikipedia or marvel wiki. We have our own Manual of Style. Abide by it or don't edit at all, else you'll do nothing but be disruptive. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie 15:02, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
- Wikipedia handles no set Manual of Style for this sort of occurence, and more characters than just Magneto are part multiple timelines in the Marvel Comics, it would be too messy to list all alternate realities on them otherwise. Connor retaining his consciousness from the main canon bears no relevance on this being part of his biography or not; none of this actually happened in the main canon, so it does not belong among the other things that he did do in the main canon. Additionally we do not know when exactly Connor and Washington had that encounter with the Apple and ended up in this alternate reality, and where it would fit in the biography. Just making a subsection in the biography immediately jumping into the alternate reality without explaining how Connor got there serves no place among canon info, and that is not comparable to Magneto's involvement in House of M. -- Master Sima Yi Clogs 15:21, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
- No relevance? he's still personally experiencing it even if no other character is, the story has been stated to be Canon meaning that one way or another it did happen in the main canon as it is still something the mainstream Connor experienced and we know that it happened after the revolution and after Connor killed Charles Lee from what he says. Your point would be true for all of the characters except for Connor.--Gboy4 (talk) 15:37, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
- Ubisoft stating the story to be canon in no way means that it happened in the main canon in one way or another. The canon aspect of this alternate timeline is that Connor is experiencing it in the real world, not doing it in the real world. You're just repeating what you said in your first message. In further regards to your remark about the House of M, in that story the characters were physically warped to a new reality (if I recall correctly), not just made to experience it in some dream-like sequence. There is no indication that this DLC takes place after Connor killed Charles Lee and after the revolution has ended, though his remark "I know who my father was" implies that Haytham was already dead. As shown at the start of the DLC, Connor had not shaved his hair like he did before he went to confront Charles Lee, and Washington was still wearing his military uniform. Haytham died in late 1781, which is the same year that was put in the Glyph with Washington holding the Apple. The most logical option would be that the encounter between Connor and Washington with the Apple occured in late 1781 or early to mid 1782, in between Sequence 10 and 11. -- Master Sima Yi Clogs 16:03, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
- There is actually, I can't remember what they're called exactly but there are three memory points in the episode that show an image of connor's past, so far. Have found two of them and one of them is of Connor killing Charles. And can you please explain to me how the story being canon doesn't mean it happened in the main canon? And Connor is doing it, whether that means he's doing it in a dream or in another world.--Gboy4 (talk) 16:29, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
- Once you get the three lucid memories in the Infamy, you can watch a short clip where Washington is riding to locate Connor. In this scene, Connor is uninjured, but it is not clear as to the exact time. For the time being, seeing we cannot ascertain the exact means of how he comes to be in the alternate timeline, it is much more convenient to keep it seperated until we know. Slate Vesper (talk) 16:36, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, the DLC is canon. However, it being canon does not mean it happens in the same timeline as the events of ACIII. Therefore, we can hardly just put a section in the midst of all the main timeline information in which an ally is suddenly an enemy. It would be too confusing for the people who come to the wiki for information - it would probably even be too confusing for many of our editors. By having a section named "Alternate Timeline" we don't say that the events didn't actually happen. We only say that they happened in a different timeline - which is undeniably true (otherwise Kaniehtí:io could not possibly be alive). Me, Sima, and several others have conferred over it on the IRC and decided it stays the way it is. Nesty Contact me! 16:38, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
aternate timeEdit
If you don't mind me asking but shouldn't the alternate time not be on Ratonhnhake:ton page because this is noncant I mean the plot to the The Tyranny of King Washington epiosdes are on that page well The you know Tyranny of King Washington page mean if people went to read about it they just go to that page I'm just saying.Tyraj (talk) 08:46, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
- This has already been discussed right above your message. -- Master Sima Yi Clogs 16:59, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
BirthdateEdit
but when is connor really born? on some sites it's states 1755, on some it's stated 1756 ..? —Preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.151.35.129 (talk · contr)
- Desmond was still reliving the memories in July 1755, during the Braddock Expedition, indicating that the child was not yet conceived at that point. Connor was conceived soon after, and because pregnancy takes around nine months it is impossible for Connor to have been born in 1755. Kanen'tó:kon's database entry also says that he was of the same age as Connor, and his birth date was listed as 1756. So Connor was born in 1756, not 1755.. -- Master Sima Yi Clogs 16:59, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
- That being said, I find it very hard to believe that he was only 4 years old when we first see him and 14 when he leaves the village. Based on appearance, I'd guess around 11 and 19 respectively? 83.177.191.12 07:50, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
- Appearances can be misleading. Just consider Claudia, Petruccio and Duccio in ACII... not to even mention IRL. Sadelyrate (siniath) 08:19, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
Connor vs Ratonhnhaké:tonEdit
When would one use "Connor" vs. "Ratonhnhaké:ton"? I thought that the decision was made to have him as Ratonhnhaké:ton. 2myname1 (talk) 06:40, March 10, 2013 (UTC)
When he adopts the name, he can be referred to Connor from thereon. That point is where Ratonhnhaké:ton and Achilles travel to Boston and Achilles gives him the name Connor to fit in around the town. Slate Vesper (talk) 08:12, March 10, 2013 (UTC)
What about the bottom sections, the ones about his skills and personality? Should that be Connor or Ratonhnhaké:ton? I would personally prefer Ratonhnhaké:ton, but I'm just curious. --THE CRIMSON EAGLE 16:46, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
QuoteEdit
May I change the quote to this...
"We hold these truths to be self-evident: Our right to Freedom, our land, and our way of life. We will die for what we believe in; we cannot be stopped. We will never back now, because a life without freedom is not a life worth living. Give us liberty or give us death."
Awesomekid120 (talk) 18:16, April 3, 2013 (UTC)Awesomekid1204
- When does Connor say this? -- Master Sima Yi Clogs 18:27, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
I searched for it, and here it is. --THE CRIMSON EAGLE 18:49, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, that one... Yeah, I agree with Crimson. -- Master Sima Yi Clogs 20:04, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
Is this the End?Edit
Someone knows what's going to happen to Connor? Or Ubisoft's going to stop his story and just focus in Edward? AnimusHack (talk) 20:31, April 25, 2013 (UTC)
- Such discussion is more relevant to our community forums on the home page than here, but in any event, we'll probably learn who Connor settled with and when he died in future media. --Alientraveller (talk) 20:35, April 25, 2013 (UTC)
we should add the surname Kenway because Ubisoft confirmed that Connor adopted his father surname
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