Talk: Assassin's Creed III/Archive 2

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News

I wanted it to be set in feudal Japan, but I think this means they decided to go with the American revolution :( link1 link2 Or maybe it's meant for April's fools? --109.60.119.248 20:00, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Incase you hadn't noticed, April fool's is a while off yet. But, anyway, why would we go all the way to feudal Japan when we should really be wrapping things up and seeing Desmond's journey end? The location of the grand temple was revealed to be in America by Jupiter at the end of revelations, so feudal Japan would lead us off the trail. Maybe in a future spin-off, but it makes more sense to base it closer to home - in Desmond's case, America.Sonsofawitch 20:29, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

considering that Desmond is not asian and the series is mostly western like myth and vibe it would have been doubtful it would be set in a japanese or chinsee time period.--The Master of Darkness 04:00, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

The Character

He Should be Mohawk Native American based on time period and area

here is the link for Mohawk Native Americans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohawk_people#American_Revolutionary_War

Does anyone know at this point who the new ancestor is?

If we did, it would already be on the wiki. Please use this talk page only for discussion on the article itself, not to discuss the game. -- Master Sima Yi 22:49, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Not to be rude but this is what a talk page is about to discuss things. And this specific article is about the game so why can't we talk about the game?

I have to agree with you, random contributor. This is a talk page about AC3, so we should be able to talk about AC3 here. The character is half Native American, and you have probably seen the art by now (I can post a link if you haven't). We do not know his name yet Makatak7 01:29, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

I know the name of the new assassin. I heard it from an interview. When can we put it on? 07:20, March 4, 2012 (UTC)The Great Dog Demon

His name has been revealed. It's already on the wiki. Slate Vesper 07:26, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

You can discuss the games in forums and blogs, not here. We need a clear place to discuss the article itself, which is what this is for. -- Master Sima Yi 11:24, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

To discuss the article itself? You mean grammar and punctuation? I beleive this is not what a talk page is for. I beleive that the talk page is to discuss info on the article and what ever is happening in the article and for this instance it is the game. Take not of the talk on the assasin's creed embers page people on the talk page don't talk about grammar they are discussing possibilities and theorys of how Ezio died. Correct me if I am wrong but that is what a talk page should be.

I should believe Sima knows what he is talking about. He is an admin on the wiki and has a lot of experience here. Slate Vesper 17:43, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

And why should anyone have to talk about grammar and punctuation? google and spell ckeck can do that. we shoud be able to discuss the game, bring in info, and filter the best into the article itself. thats what a talk page should be utilized for. (Arabian411269 14:45, April 7, 2012 (UTC))

Sima, at the top it says "you may discuss either the subject or discuss improving the article" the subject is Assassin's Creed III, so therefore we should be able to talk about the game. The Leaping Eagle 19:17, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Firstly, this is old, secondly, does that mean I'm wrong? I didn't make that template nor do I know who did. We don't need forums, blogs AND talk pages to discuss the same things. -- Master Sima Yi 19:20, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I know it is old and no, it does not mean you're wrong. But if it says we may discuss the subject, I don't see what should stop people from talking about it, they can talk anywhere as long as it's not on an article right? The Leaping Eagle 16:42, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Because, as I said, we don't need numerous forums, blogs and talk pages all discussing the exact same thing, when people can just bother to look up a forum or blog to discuss something instead of making another section on a talk page. The discussions that are actually relevant to the article will also be drowned in subject discussions. -- Master Sima Yi 17:05, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

I see your point, I personally don't mind the discussions about the games, but they should just go on a blog or something. The Leaping Eagle 18:17, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Weaponry

Just for discussion's sake.

From the promo images, it seems the Tomahawk might be the focus weapon for the third game, as opposed to swords (at least swords are still around, being the 18th century) Also that bow and arrow might be taking the place of the crossbow as the silent ranged weapon. And a proper pistol instead of the hidden gun, what do people think? 2.102.44.200 14:44, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

That's pretty much all we've seen so far. The assassin also looks like he may also have a longer pistol sheathed, and I wouldn't be suprized to see him pick up a rifle. But besides that, I think you're pretty much right. He might pick up a saber after killing a general or something like that. And don't forget to mention that he has at least one hidden blade.

Of course, I hope he has two hidden blades. He seems to embrace his Native American heritage, so I'm interested to see how he combines it with his membership in the Assassin's order. Also, this guy MUST be either a descendant of Ezio or Altair, I'm thinking Ezio. 2.102.44.200 14:44, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

You don't know if the guy has hidden blades on his feet. 114.77.236.87 06:33, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

I've heard that idea tossed around a lot since they said Ezio had two hidden blades because it was Assassin's Creed II. But from a gameplay point of view I think it would suck. I do hope theres some cross weapon animations though, like if you have the tomahawk equipped and counter kill you might use the hidden blade in the animation, that'd be cool. 2.102.44.200 09:37, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Take this to a blog or forum. -- Master Sima Yi 11:26, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

This stuff should go on connor's page. Cl1ntz 18:11, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

IDEA- Grappling arrow for the bow. Could be used for climbing, swinging, or saving yourself from a long fall

i think that Ubisoft thinks that youre IDEA is to sci-fi for the AC series (but i like it) ACsenior (talk) 16:26, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Can you still buy stuff?

Does anyone know if you can buy stuff like weaponry on ACIII? 114.77.236.87 06:37, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, the economy system is still in AC3. It will have some slight changes, but it will work similarly to what's already been established. Slate Vesper 06:45, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Hookblade?

Do you think it'll return? For me, it was the best new feature in AC:R. Xeoxer 11:59, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Not my favorite weapon. I don't think it will return. Anyway I'd prefer a game with real features. Not saying I hate AC but I just find the hookblade going on ziplines and a hay cart still being intact after a leap of faith rather weird. Ahaga10 10:53, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

It does not seem to return. -- Master Sima Yi 11:26, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

it wont i bet on it cathgon123Cathgon123 17:32, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Bombs and Bomb Crafting

Does anyone think bomb crafting will return? It would seem a good weapon to use in time of war.

I doubt it.

I don't believe it would suit the time period, even though bombs made an appearance in Constantinople. Slate Vesper 20:46, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

But at that time in Constantinople, bomb-crafting was actually experiencing a large boom (no pun intended), whereas there wasn't too much explosives in the American Revolution. -121.217.40.74 11:36, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

historically and scientifically speaking, bombs use up alot of gunpowder. all the gunpowder at that time was needed for the guns during revelation's time they used mainly wheellocks and flintlocks. sooooo. i could be wrong though. (Arabian411269 14:48, April 7, 2012 (UTC))

Speculation

The Story

am i the only one concerned with the story because im interested how they would fit the story in the American revolution maybe Connor finds the grand temple and realizes it intentions plus the native American aspect seems like a another Ezio revenge type aspect maybe The British AKA The Templar's might have killed his tribe but didn't they blame the Boston tea party on Mohawk Indians i don't know maybe a cover reply if you have any ideas 98.218.61.103 03:33, March 5, 2012 (UTC) Tyler_Payton

You'll have to wait to find out more details, I'm afraid. Everyone else is as stumped as you are at the moment. Only time will tell what the story entails. Slate Vesper 03:44, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think the British are the Templars; there will probably be Templars on both sides like on the original.

JFeather 19:07, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

I'd say the Brits are the mainstream Templars, and the Federalists are a Templar subgroup trying to carve a chunk of the New World for themselves. Anti-federalists are essentially Assassins anyway. Kalaong 06:29, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Weren't the Founding Fathers of America Freemasons, another form of the Templars? It doesn't make sense that Connor would team up with them if they were. I like the idea that both the British and the Federalists were Templars and the Anti-Federalists were Assassins. 64.53.34.59 19:25, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

What im more worried about is if this truely is the LAST Assassins Creed game how the heck are they going to introduce a new character, a new setting, a new plot and then at the end of it go back to being Desmond and finish up the entire series all in one game. Lolwut? Soooo we are going to finally get to play as Desmond in the future for 5 mins or something???? Im greatly fearing the ending to this amazing series is going to be rushed...... Miroyasha 01:23, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

keep in mind that the assassin insignia is very similar to the emblem of the freemasons. (Arabian411269 14:49, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

the freemasons emblem may lokk like the assassin`s insignia but, that don`t mean the freemasons are assassin`s. ACsenior (talk) 16:32, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Soundtrack

Does anyone know who are the Composer from the Soundtrack?

Jesper Kyd. who else??Deathangel Anon 07:16, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

I hope so, but it seems as if he won't... 178.191.159.49 17:16, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

What about Baulf, or however you spell his name, like in Revelations? Ezio Auditore 1459 22:37, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Jesper Kyd is NOT returning. This was confirmed by UbiDiiLite in a podcast. Lorne Balfe is the composer for ACIII. - Hakametal 21:39, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Gameplay

The Hunting

I have nothing against hunting games but hunting doesn't really fit with AC.I mean I don't want to be fighting a soldier and suddenly a bear comes out of nowhere and bites my head off :(

70.83.225.39 12:46, March 6, 2012 (UTC)Aripene

Please use [[1]] for topics like this. --Alientraveller 12:55, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

I say hunting is AWESOME It is unrealstic to put IMMORTAL HORSES and zero wild animals in AC series. Now my dream is fulfilled. I can die happily knowing that MY HEAD WAS EATEN BY A FRICKING BEAR!! WTH?! Anyway this will make things more interesting while you are walking around that massive map. While walking you can have the joy of killing an animal and selling its pelt for a few extra coins.Fairy Tail Grand Master 09:14, March 7, 2012 (UT

{C}(Arabian411269 16:16, March 11, 2012 (UTC))Alex Hutchinson, creative director of AC3 said: "In AC3, we promise you that within 30 seconds of putting the disc in the tray, you will in fact be assassinating someone. That's a promise.

• Shivers*

Source: [[2]]

(Arabian411269 16:18, March 11, 2012 (UTC))

i know the hunting gameplay is "new" and may not fit the others taste...but the wilderness is going to be a huge part of the story.. and i cant imagine wilderness without the "hunting animals" concept.

Just an Idea

Won't it have been great if they'd released the game on July the 4th? (I know that would be rushing the release from the original date October 11th, but this is just an idea.) July 4th is Independence day for America for those who don't know and that would really highlight the theme and backdrop(story) of the game.

So how do you guys like the idea?

that'd be pretty awesome (Arabian411269 14:35, April 7, 2012 (UTC))

New photos 23/03/12

[[3]] new photos 94.81.140.107 12:43, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Medicine

According to the page's text, "Connor can no longer use medicine in combat and has to rest in order to restore his own". Does that mean it will be like in the first Assassin's Creed ? Or could it be like after being damaged, you could duck or hide in a safe position to restore it? Please inform me of the health mechanics in AC 3, that's cuz I love the medicine item in the series(Ezio trilogy I mean).RogwelTarune 06:32, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

they should have made medicine available but not as effective. the fact that you could just press a button for your health to fill up was a bit boring. then again sitting around waiting for you thealth to fill up takes us back to PS2 (not hating, ur still the awesomest of all awesome). i think they have something fasinating in mind. (Arabian411269 14:38, April 7, 2012 (UTC))

it wud be just like Uncharted series where health can be restored automatically but the player needs to hide in that case. that is much better idea. because its a problem if you run out of medicine.Deathangel Anon 07:20, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Eagle Vision?

Given he's an ancestor of Desmond, but does he have Eagle Vision active? Will Ubisoft bring back its iconic power, or give us a true feeling of being a hunter and have us track people and animals based on the environment (footsteps, broken twigs on the ground, maybe scent?, etc.)? Either way is fine with me. (Ultraman468)

Connor has been more likened to a wolf. so he might a wolf vision and perhaps an eagle vision too.Deathangel Anon 07:23, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

I am guessing he will have an eagle vision or something like that. Although in the assassins creed 3 cinematic trailer it does feature an eagle flying over and at the start. JB12398 02:31, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

The "Sharp Shooter"

I was looking through the different eddition's of ACIII, and stumbled onto the "Join or die" Eddition and the "Freedom" Eddition. I looked at the content and noticed one of the thing's we'll be getting is a new multiplayer character. The Sharp Shooter. But then.. I looked at the two different edditions and saw that they had two different character's, one of them looks like a cowboy (Or Stranger from Oddsworld) and the other one looks like Connor, but in slightly different clothes. Are they ment to be like that? It was on the Ubi website too. Or was the cowboy/connor just artwork? Heres a pic of the "Join or die" Eddition - ac3_join_or_die_editiontcm2142765.jpg and here's the one for the "Freedom" Eddition" - freedom_editiontcm2142769.jpg

Also here's the site from Ubi showcasing the different edditions and were I got the pictures. [[4]] 207.161.161.245 14:48, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Rapnoize uploaded some photos of SP stuff that go with the Special Edition. It appears the one similar to Connor is actually the "Traditional Colonial Assassin Outfit". BRX 17:55, March 29, 2012 (UTC)BRX

Yes I see that, which also comes with the pistol i'm hoping, and I also see that you can also use a uniform with i'm guessing is a "Traditional tomahawk". 207.161.161.245 14:43, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Musket?

In one of bonus mission descriptions (from collector's edtions) it says the reward will be a flintlock musket. Does this mean Connor will have it as a permanent weapon, or as heavy one, or maybe as a replacement/upgrade for his guns? Fanina 14:49, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Special Edition

The list of bonus content that comes with the Special Edition of the game on this page is very different from the list on the Assassin's Creed webiste. Your list includes; Captain of the Aquila ULC Pack, Single Player Weapon: Boarding Axe, Single Player Skin: The Captain of the Aquila's Uniform, Colonial Assassin ULC Pack, Single Player Weapon: Scottish Flintock, Single Player Skin: Traditional Colonial Assassin Outfit. The AC website only lists the new mission, A Dangerous Secret. Where did this list come from? Is there a link to it? I would like to know before I pre-order anything. Tom ^Talk 10:53, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

I bet they're from various bonuses related to game retailers. For instance, GameStop can offer a special edition, but they can also have a piece of content that they can include, in order to attract more customers into buying their special edition over another store's. Slate Vesper 10:56, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Banned in UK??(Probably)

I'm from UK and this could be banned probably in the UK because it makes us look bad. Not saying it will so, I don't want people trying to call me dumb or anything. That's what I think.Matrixpretty 20:23, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think it will get baned because they don't ban games for those reasons, games get banned for being too violent or if their controversial. The game won't get banned it the UK because you kill Brits in it, It's like the Call of Duty games, in the CoD games you kill a lot of russians and you don't see the game get baned in Russia. I hope that answers your question.Assassin75ibn 22:01, April 3, 2012 (UTC)Assassin75ibn

This is a joke, right? Not to miss the point that you will also kill Americans just as you will kill Brits. Assassin's Creed wasn't banned in England, France, Germany and the Middle East because you killed Crusaders and Saracens, and Assassin's Creed: Revelations wasn't banned in Greece and Turkey because you killed Byzantines and Ottomans. This won't be banned in the United Kingdom because there are lot of games where you kill Englishmen. The game also won't make you look bad; the Brits aren't Templars, there are only so many Templars on both the American and British sides of the American Revolutionary War. You need not worry. -- Master Sima Yi 22:07, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

games get banned for being considered to violent (e.g. GTA IV in the middle east) or politicallly contoversal (e.g. idk) other than that ur safe man. plus u can always swim across to france and buy it. :) (Arabian411269 14:41, April 7, 2012 (UTC))

It won't. If it does (it won't!) then the British government is more pathetic than I thought it was. (No offence to any supporters of the British government intended.) The Leaping Eagle 20:31, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Can you get drunk?

Can you get drunk like in Red Dead? I would like to so that for example, I keep failing a mission so I go to buy some boos and drink off my troubles. Ahaga10 01:51, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

i doubt it. he is an assassin and he needs to be aware of his surroundings. plus if ubisoft wanted to be historically correct the assassin's were notorious for using marijuana not alcohol. it might have been cool (Arabian411269 01:55, April 13, 2012 (UTC))

ohh i read that mohawks used to smoke some weird drug. cant remember the name. but we dont see any assassin eating and drinking in the gameplay.Deathangel Anon 07:37, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Thats were "hashashin" came from.

Lucan07^Talk 01:57, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

OMFG!! Someone with a sense of history!! Finally I've met an equal. Posts should really have a "like" button (Arabian411269 02:05, April 13, 2012 (UTC))

Hahaha nice to know there are others with a sense of history.

Lucan07^Talk 02:07, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Remember their is not much proof of this, only wisetales told by their enemies! Jackadorspartacus 02:12, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

http://alltheragefaces.com/face/fuck-yeah-gtfo-clean I'm just kidding, but... :) Jackadorspartacus 02:25, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

"History is written by the victors"

Lucan07^Talk 02:15, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Sooo true guys. Its still funny that in my home country (Sudan) we call marijuana hasheesh. Thats the good stuff. (Arabian411269 02:17, April 13, 2012 (UTC))

Yum yum lol, sudan sounds like a cool place.

Lucan07^Talk 02:19, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Any More Special Editions

Will anymore special editions be released or should I go ahead and buy the freedom edition now 108.173.188.193 04:00, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'\d suggest waiting a liitle, whats the rush? (Arabian411269 23:50, April 14, 2012 (UTC))

If I'm correct then the Special Edition has more in-game bonuses whereas the Freedom Edition and Join or Die Edition are more physical as they come with very cool real life stuff like Connors statue and Connors Medallion respectively whereas the Special Edition has an extra two or three outfits and an "exclusive" axe and pistol possibily as different sources have different information(though even if they are included it will probably be released as a weapon DLC/ULC a few months after release). I pre-ordered the Freedom Edition as it looks like the best one to me but waiting may be a good idea to see if you can get a better deal but I seriously doubt any other Editions will be released. You're welcome. Lucan07^Talk 02:59, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hey man give me chance to replie but yeh thanks for the info and advice I need some advice. I'm can't decide between buying the freedom edition or just the normal game. I just don't know if the freedom edition is worth £80 so what do you guys think.

Just wondering if these and any other bonus content like the captin of the aquilla and colonial assassin ulc's should be added including the images to the main article as theres only a small mention of these two under digital deluxe edition with no imagery, perhaps under marketing as they are offered depending of different stores you pre order from.Aegritudo 23:36, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

Is this ([[5]]) seriously what the "Traditional Colonial Assassin outfit" is going to look like? The concept art above looks so awesome but this... THIS looks like.... blah. Any word from Ubi on this? (T.T) 108.173.188.193 04:00, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

That outfit looks interesting, and looks like it could fit the colonial assassin name, the other outfit does look more traditional though, from a native perspective, hopefully they are both floating around just a little confused with what their called them though. Aegritudo 06:54, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Love interest

it must be very embarassing to ask, but im curious to know if we can get to see Desmond fall in love. also if there is by any chance of romance in Connor's life that we get to see? it would give a nice touch to the game! just saying, no offense to anyone! :PDeathangel Anon 07:42, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

How is that possibly able to offend someone? While a love interest is plausible I doubt it will happen as Connor is not a freewheeling passionate person like Ezio he is dedicated to justice and fighting Templars and didn't have it easy early in life and have time and the right company for those kinda feelings to develop I would think, I personally wouldn't care if he goes solo the whole game. But thats just my opinion and take on things.

Lucan07^Talk 07:49, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

We know nothing yet, just gotta wait Master Decoder 08:56, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Am I the only one that finds the teaser to be absolutely brilliant? ^^

Well, he'll obviously have an intimate encounter with a woman. We wouldn't be able to play as him if he didn't. The Leaping Eagle 20:27, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

How does the lack of an intimate encounter mean we wouldn't be able to play as him? Ghost Leader (talk) 17:53, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

Well, he needs to pass on his genes to have descendants like Desmond. And if Connor never passed on his genes, Desmond wouldn't exist. The Leaping Eagle (talk) 18:01, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

UbiSoft Email

When reading an email I recieved from UbiSoft, I noticed that its headline was "Help Unlock the World Gameplay Premiere of Assassin' Creed III" and was wondering if there was a section in the article this could possibly fit in. My internet has been acting up, and therefore I was not able to view the message due to the high amount of material in the email. XV DEaD ShOT xV Leave me a message! 04:25, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

No. We won't be adding that to the article. Its just one of those unlock events where you have post on Facebook's timeline, share among friends or tweet.. --Vatsa (talk • Gentek) 04:29, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Ah. And also, there is a new video on machinima showing a preview of Assassin's Creed III's gameplay video. Here's the link. XV DEaD ShOT xV Leave me a message! 04:40, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, we know.. XD --Vatsa (talk • Gentek) 04:42, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Hunting the Hunter

I read on Wikipedia that as well as hunting animals, Connor may be hunted by other animals. Should this be added somewhere? The Leaping Eagle 19:15, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Not until we find out for sure.

Dont want to ruin the greatest game ever with fasle info before it comes out.

however it would be interesting to fight wild wolves and bears along with redcoats. (Ntesla666 18:59, May 14, 2012 (UTC))

Trailer

Does anyone know if there is going to be a trailer like the E3 trailers for Ezio? Ezio Auditore 21:41, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

I can't think of any reason why they wouldn't. The Leaping Eagle 20:25, May 22, 2012 (UTC

Cinematic

Which battle is depicted in the cinematic trailer ?

I believe it was supposed to be the battle of Bunker Hill. But AC cinematic trailers (with the exception of Revelations) don't usually show events exactly as they happen in the game. 24.210.189.225 20:10, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

QTE

In the E3 frontier gameplay when Connor dodges the wolves there appeared to be a QTE can anyone prove of deny if these are going to be in-game? Ezio Auditore 04:20, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not 100% on if it will be in the final game, but during an interview, they said they put it in there so people would would know that they can dodge animals like they can with enemies. Stormbeast ^{The Helpful Place} 04:25, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

That's not a very good reason, though. If Connor is seen dodging the wolves, then the audience will see that he can dodge the wolves. What I don't like about the QTE is that now instead of watching the enemy and judging when to dodge, now you're just looking over Connor's shoulder for the prompt to pop up.Einsteinium99 (talk) 22:50, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Criticisms section

Is this really necessary? I mean, yes, a lot of people seem to be cheesed about killing redcoats, but in AC1, ALL the pre-release stuff showed Altair killing exclusively Crusaders, which was far from the case in the actual game. Do we really need to acknowledge such a senseless issue on the game's page? 24.210.189.225 20:04, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

i think it is valid to show the criticism that has arrisen from the trailers. regardless of ubi conforming that youd kill templars on either side of the war, people have still criticised the fottage shown. Aegritudo 20:23, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Slate Vesper (talk) 20:24, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

ACIII PC System Requirements

Does anyone know what the minimum system requirements for Assassin's Creed 3 will be, and if you don't know can you at least tell me your thoughts on what they should be.Assassin75ibn (talk) 20:51, July 13, 2012 (UTC)Assassin75ibn

PC release date

There's been an announcement by a Ubisoft PR saying that the pc release date will be the same as the console's after all, here is the link to the article (the article has been updated to detail this): http://www.joystiq.com/2012/07/12/assassins-creed-3-pc-delay-confirmed-to-drop-before-christmas/ --ACisamazing (talk) 13:37, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Thank God, i thought i was gonna have to wait until November.Assassin75ibn (talk) 13:55, July 15, 2012 (UTC)Assassin75ibn

Most likely? Sorry to say that you (and me as well) will still have to wait until November. For the last 4 AC games, GR:FS, Rayman: Origins, and a slew of other games, Ubisoft has consistently delayed the PC version (at varying lengths). This "update" denying the delay is simply a PR positioning announcement ("still scheduled/slated/due to release alongside consoles" means nothing more than that's what they intend, not a confirmation or promise that they'll live up to it). Ubi's PR really is worthless; they need an overhaul because, at least for PC gamers and websites, there seems to be little faith for the PR representatives at all. (Granted, I could be wrong--and I pray that I am!--and AC3 releases on the same day, but I wouldn't put any stock into these announcements until after AC3 comes out on PC). Love you Ubi! Why you no love me back? 142.229.136.225 18:35, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Complaints over the game taking place in Colonial America?

Is this true? I heard from a friend of mine (a real AC... um... enthusiast) that there was some negative reactions to AC3 taking place in Colonial America, but Google has failed me and I haven't been able to find anything concrete about it. Ghost Leader (talk) 18:03, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

I think it's mostly BS there will always be a few who complain about anything but no major complaints about the setting of AC3, if anyone does find an article on the web(my 5min google didnt turn up anything either) it would most likely be trying to incite confilct to garner hits for their site. Aegritudo (talk) 19:33, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

There is some negative reactions, because it is now cool to hate on America, so everybody jumps on that bandwagon, but overall everything has been positive, and my Google search failed to find anything either.The Joker~ (talk)

It's not the fact that it's taking place in Colonial America that's bothering people, but that the marketing (note, the marketing, not the game) appears to be quite what Matt Turner called "America Ra Ra", a fear which is in my opinion comprehensible, considering the "Rise"- and the "July 4th"-trailer. It has nothing to do with "it is now cool to hate on America"; it's simply about the fact that the Assassin's Creed franchise was perfect in depicting both sides of a conflict as a somewhat "grey" area (e.g. ACI, where the Assassins were supporting neither the Christian Crusaders nor the Muslim Saracens and Templars were on both sides).

While I and most people out there who are at least somewhat educated believe that ACIII will continue this tradition, it is unfortunately undeniable that the marketing usually depicts Connor in front of American flags or siding with Americans instead of being neutral to the conflict. There's a huge discussion about this topic on the internet, I suppose you searched for the wrong keywords. Numerous gaming sites have published articles about this topic (a link to one is even in a footnote on this very article), AC developers have replied to the criticism and partially blamed the marketing team and assured that ACIII will not be like the trailers imply. And, of course, there a literally hundreds if not thousands of user discussions on this Wiki or the official Ubi forums. Hope that clears things up. StPerkele (talk) 00:14, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

The only complaint that have been noticed so far is Ubi's marketing strategy of hammering the "Connor doesn't take sides, but we're only showing redcoats being killed.". Other than that, didn't see people complain about things. --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 01:00, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

No, no, that is not the problem, I agree the marketing is taking the game down, and I have my doubts over the actual game, but people are actually complaining on the setting itself, strangely, even tho not many games have The American Revolution as a setting. And oh, AC was biased in Revelations.The Joker~ (talk) 01:07, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

How was AC biased in Revelations? They at least tried to make the focus a little less of a black and white perspective in it, even if the story was lacking in length.

Also, people are bound to complain about the setting, but that's not what the controversy is about. Slate Vesper (talk) 01:17, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

StPerkele your talking about a completely different matter than what the OP was asking and that negative reaction to the marketing is a minority, and i feel that had the ac3 maketing dept shown assassinations of Americans, particularly near to july 4th, there would have been much more criticism. Aegritudo (talk) 01:13, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

No, because tons of British were killed before. Americans would make themselves look bad more than anything, if that was the case.The Joker~ (talk) 01:29, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

No, Aegritudo, I am not talking about a completely different matter. Everything I mentioned is directly related to the setting. If it wasn't set in Colonial America, there wouldn't be the fear that the game is full of jingoism.

Also, I never said that people wish to see the assassination of an American or whatever you read into my post. I don't want to see that, for the simple sake that it would most likely be a huge spoiler. I have no problem with British people getting murdered, the people who complain about that are usually just naive British patriots. It's the flag-waving patriotism that is bothering me and tons of other people out there.

And about " i feel that had the ac3 maketing dept shown assassinations of Americans, particularly near to july 4th, there would have been much more criticism", that's simply because many Americans (no offence to the Americans on here) consider the Revolutionary War as a black/white-thing, with the colonialists clearly being the heroes and the British being cruel monsters, which is not true at all. What you said just confirms that the marketing is completely adapted to the American market. StPerkele (talk) 12:01, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

It's still nothing to do with the setting of colonial america, you could have it set anywhere and youd have the same reaction if you had americans vs someone else. yes the marketing is biased to americans, thats because america is a large portion of the market for the AC games and though everyone is patriotic toward their country, americans more than anyone appear to quickly take offense at anything they feel shows america or americans in a negative light, so marketing will always try not to do so. interesting to note that it wasnt that the british are shown to be cruel or money grabbing taxmen that people were criticising, it was that only redcoats were killed in the trailers. also why would an american assassination be a spoiler and not the british? Aegritudo (talk) 19:41, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

The American Revolutionary War is the only way America could be part of an AC game though. The next big event would be the Civil War, where weapons evolved to such a level that AC would basically be a shooter, which won't happen. Also, "Americans VS Someone else" is not the same as the Revolutionary War; I suppose that not many Americans feel as patriotic and proud about things like the Vietnam or Afghanistan War as they feel about said event.

So you say that the marketing should be biased just because the American market is important? What kind of logic is that? Betray your principles in order to make more money in one country while you anger all the other countries? That's not AC-like. I don't mind if games like Homefront or Battlefield feature American jingoism - that's part of the genre - but not AC.

Well, no British were shown to be "money grabbing taxmen" (what kind of term is that anyway? That's what taxmen do..) and the only cruel thing I've seen was the one Redcoat whipping some random guy in the Frontier demo. So why would people criticise something that hasn't been seen? Your statement doesn't make sense, frankly. Also, I say it again, the fact that only British people are killed is not the thing that bothers most people.

And, last but not least: It's easy to figure the British targets out, most officers who died on the battlefield or during the American Revolutionary War will most likely be your assassination target. The Americans however will be different.. We know that Connor supported Washington to a certain extent, so it will definitely be a story twist when he is suddenly forced to turn against the Colonialists because he has to assassinate an American Templar. Who could it be? Is it one of the founding fathers? That's all quite spoilerish, if you ask me. Also, Alex Hutchinson confirmed that most American targets will be a spoiler. StPerkele (talk) 21:53, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Money grabbing taxmen...LOL XD

Anyways: Show american guards being killed? not really that hard. You can guess all the targets by going on google, dude [:

Honestly, if any American goes and complains, it would be a prime example of why American people get a bad name. Being overly patriotic. And their problem is not with the actual marketing, but the setting itself. People claim America is not interesting.The Joker~ (talk) 22:59, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Noone really likes the taxman but they are always trying to grab more from you. isnt the taxation of the colonies one of the 'Crimes of the king' written in the decleration of independence?, isnt that part of what the war was about? im not saying any other setting with americans vs would be a good game just that youd get the same reactions of both the public and the choices of the marketing dept as you have with colonial america (making the actual setting irrelevent, its the players involved that matters). All marketing is biased, 'in order to make more money' is the name of the (marketing) game, its why you will often get different cover art, promotions, trailers etc depending on where your trying to sell your product. i dont see the marketing angering most other countries, but youd probably anger more overly patriotic americans if the situation were reversed. you can easily show connor killing americans without having spoilers, not every colonial in the game can be a spoiler. Aegritudo (talk) 23:56, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

The war started because the British lost so much $$$$ on the Indian war, that they started taxing, and then you know what happened. And dude, there is an entire backlash against it. They are pissing off many people, and as I said, it will only bring them bad name. Hell, when I said that on the Ubi forums, everybody raged against me calling me racist against Americans.

I am actually not sure how well the game will do in the UK based on the marketing.The Joker~ (talk) 00:10, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

im sure the game will do just fine in the uk, from most of the people i know really just dont care about the british portrayal, a game is a game. and its gonna be popular regardless.

before the revolution the colonists were british, they paid less in tax than people in britan, much of the monies raised was staying on the continent to pay for the army housing and feeding, ok they were probs not necessary in after thought but the mistake was made, because theyd just come out of a war, to balance finances spent then and protect new land aquired, did it for a justified reason tho it may have been worng modern america is just as gulty of many of the mistakes the british made with the colonies. Aegritudo (talk) 00:38, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

And that's what I want to see. Not just a pro-colonial view but both sides (and all sides if we consider the native americans, the factions such as the Templar and Assassins and any others I haven't mentioned). It feels like they forgot that theme after AC1 and marketing at Ubi are now painting a black and white picture. -- ► Kaloneous ◄ _{♣^HelpDesk♣} 00:44, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, by the way, AC:Rev was biased in the Byzantine/Ottoman presentation.

Just saying, Aeg, your logic works in reverse...if it will offend Americans, is it not offending British right now?The Joker~ (talk) 00:47, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

ACR focused on Ezio's story and didn't delve into the Byzantine/Ottoman conflict as much as I would have liked. At the end of the day, either Byzantine/Ottoman were just guards in the story. Though in the writers defense the shear scale of the background story would have been too immense to put in a single game. -- ► Kaloneous ◄ _{♣^HelpDesk♣} 00:51, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

But still, it was very biased, like, seriously, it is kinda like what the marketing of ACIII is like. Except nobody complained, because things get more touchy when it's 'Merica/Britain.The Joker~ (talk) 00:54, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

just simply reversing it dosent change the views of the person, its really down to the viewer wether they take offence, i think it much more likely that an american would take offence than the british, simply because the revolutionary war is cared about less by the general public in britan than in the us. Aegritudo (talk) 01:01, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

I had a more detailed response written but it was lost in an edit conflict. Anyways, this isn't a blog so the topic should stop here. Talkpages are for issues relating to the artiicle. -- ► Kaloneous ◄ _{♣^HelpDesk♣} 01:10, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Digital Deluxe Edition

So, according to the Ubishop website, you only get the two costumes, three missions, and two multiplayer characters. About a week after they announced this edition they removed the notes about George Washington's notebook and the "Best of" soundtrack. Can anyone update the page proper to reflect this? 108.173.188.193 01:30, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

well looking on the ubi store page for the Digital Deluxe Edition the only difference to whats on the main article is the audio tracks, the notebook is still there, though not the same as the other versions. but thats for the uk site shouldnt be much difference, perhaps it is part of another edition? Aegritudo (talk) 03:05, August 1, 2012 (UTC)