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tenses[]

Small remark, but the first sentence is past tense, the last one present. why?


EXistenZ! 17:30, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

James Morse and his emails[]

It seems that James Morse is Alan Rikkin secretary in 2010/2011. There is also some info there that could help define Alan Rikkin a little bit. Sekuiya 20:47, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

SIGN. YOUR. POSTS. -- Master Sima Yi 20:48, January 22, 2011 (UTC)
Geez, sorry, my mistake! D: Forgot about it. >.< Sekuiya 20:52, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

CEO?[]

Maybe I'm forgetting something, but where does it say that Rikkin is CEO of Abstergo? Guardian Assassin 20:29, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Not in AC1 that's for sure. I've removed the CEO reference from the article since I couldn't find the source.
The article says Rikkin is mentioned The Fall; I don't have access to that product so I won't remove it from the references. Can someone with the comic confirm/deny his entry?
The article also cites the Abstergo Website as a source, but when I visited I couldn't find anything resembling a staff list.
Smoke3723 09:07, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

AC III[]

Will he appear in this game? unsigned comment by 68.185.243.160 (talk · contr)

If we knew anything about that it would already be on the page. -- Master Sima Yi Talk 13:16, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
As soon as you reach lvl. 50 on the multiplayer you unlock a dev diary, and at the end a mysterious man talks to your character. Can it be Alan Rikkin, since he is the CEO of Abstergo, and the multiplayer is a entertainment product from Abstergo?Diogosanto (talk) 18:42, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Revelations?!?![]

Why is he included in that category? MysteryMan01010101 14:41, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

Multiplayer. And sign your posts MysteryMan01010101. IlMualim Wanna Chat? 20:26, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot. On the topic of Alan Rikkin, his name only appears in a document. Is that really good enough? MysteryMan01010101 14:41, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

AC1 Appearance[]

After the Templars acquire the map from Desmond, I always assumed the fat guy in the conference room with the other two was Rikkin. The way Vidic asks him for direction and is pissed at Lucy for undermining his authority in front of an apparent superior always pointed me to that. Thoughts? --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie 20:44, October 1, 2012 (UTC)

Of course it's plausible; but as you're well aware, it's speculation and can't be put anywhere. Crimson Knight Intercom 20:47, October 1, 2012 (UTC)

I was told the Encyclopedia has an image of him, and that the fat guy we saw wasn't him. I haven't seen the image myself, but I think someone should look for it if it exists. EmeraldCorruption (talk) 23:26, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

SIGN. YOUR. POSTS! On that note, if there are any pictures of Mr. Rikkin in the Encyclopedia, I would love to see them. I've been kinda obsessed with this character since I read his emails back in AC1.MysteryMan01010101 (talk) 23:24, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

I didn't really check everywhere. but at a glance, I can't find any new images of Alan Rikkin, legitimate or otherwise. Anyone else have better luck? MysteryMan01010101 (talk) 18:13, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Grand Master?[]

If this,

"there was still a Grand Master serving as the head of the company"

is true, shouldn't Mr. Rikkin be listed as the Grand Master?

Kinda like this, (entire Order, ? - 2012), maybe. Wouldn't that fit? unsigned comment by MysteryMan01010101 (talk · contr)

No, because we do not allow speculation or assumption on articles. -- Master Sima Yi Talk 18:58, November 26, 2012 (UTC)
But, it isn't. This quote is from the "Grand Master" page on this very Wikia, and both AC1 and "The Fall" hinted that Rikkin was a senior Templar in the modern hierarchy, while ACR confirmed he is both the C.E.O and a high-ranking, Inner Sanctum member of the organization. Ergo, "head of the company". It's detective work, not "speculation or assumption". Not trying to be a jerk, honest, but you do see my point, right? MysteryMan01010101 (talk) 19:41, November 26, 2012 (UTC)
It's not "detective work" when you don't come out with cold hard facts. It is assumption. And we have a clear policy on it. -- Master Sima Yi Talk 19:55, November 26, 2012 (UTC)
Alright, point taken. But I do possess one cold hard fact; Alan Rikkin is Chief Executive Officer of Abstergo Industries. And where I'm from, that would be considered "head of the company". Ergo, my suggestion of adding him to the "Grand Master" page. MysteryMan01010101 (talk) 21:18, November 26, 2012 (UTC)
I know he is the CEO of Abstergo; but he may just as well have declined the role of Grand Master if he was offered it. Unless it is explicitly stated somewhere, we won't add it. -- Master Sima Yi Talk 21:20, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

New infobox image?[]

Alright, did I miss something? Does anyone know where this new image came from? Is this image from a new comic or something? Or is Xangr8 just a griefer/troll? Not trying to be rude, but I'm kind of obsessed with Mr. Rikkin and I've never seen this image before. If it's legitimate, could you tell me where I might find it? MysteryMan01010101 (talk) 14:44, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

From the first comic, apparently. --Crimson Knight Intercom 14:49, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
No offense, The Crimson Eagle, but I'm going to need more specific information. "The first comic" could be either Assassin's Creed 1: Desmond, Assassin's Creed Comic (Penny Arcade webcomic), or Assassin's Creed: The Fall. Not to mention, aren't the first two comics I listed treated as non-canon on this Wikia? If so, the image would have to be removed in accordance with that policy alone. Of course, if the image was actually lifted from the latter, then you may consider my concerns retracted! MysteryMan01010101 (talk) 15:50, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
None taken, I probably should've been more specific, after all. Yeah, it's from Desmond, I believe. That's what the image source states. And, I'm not really sure whether this is strictly canon or not, but I don't really mind all that much, since it's not exactly misleading or incorrect information. --Crimson Knight Intercom 16:02, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
True. So, should we just leave it there? I guess it wouldn't do any harm. I mean, if a higher-quality scan or an official render is released, we can always just swap it with the current image. So I see no problem with just leaving it as is. However, if I may put up a disclaimer, I am just a member. And a casual one at that! I have no authority whatsoever, and I only possess a cursory knowledge of this Wikia's rules and/or policies. My opinion is pretty useless, is what I'm saying. Nonetheless, for curousity's sake, I would to see an admin or just someone in authority tell us the correct approach to this situation. That probably won't happen for such a trival matter, but still. Anyway, what's your take The Crimson Eagle? MysteryMan01010101 (talk) 17:31, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
No-one's opinion is useless. Everyone's is valid when it comes to matters of discussion. And I feel pretty much the same as you do. I have no problem with the image, but I wouldn't really mind if was removed, either. I'm sure an admin or someone with magical Wiki-powers will come along shortly with an appropriate approach. And you don't need to address me so formally, by the way; "Crimson", or "Crimsicon" is enough to keep me happy. :) --Crimson Knight Intercom 17:42, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

Voice Actor[]

Didn't Alan Rikkin talk in Assassin's Creed. Does anyone know his Voice Actor in that game. --Cococrash11 (talk) 04:24, December 11, 2015 (UTC)

Image of Alan Rikkin[]

Why in the article is the image of David Kilkerman? It is not Rikkin.

Proof: scans of the official manual for the game.

--Ichischka 12:22, May 12, 2016 (UTC)

The picture used on this page looks nothing like the one of Kilkerman.--Bovkaffe (talk) 18:56, May 13, 2016 (UTC)

Alan on AC1[]

The first thing I thought of seeing Alan Rikkin in the film was: What do you mean?? Did they break the canon or were we wrong all along? Alan in the film is much older than his supposed model in the games looks to be (if it is him, of course). Not to mention that the film is only a few years after AC1. TheCreedX (talk) 12:32, January 29, 2017 (UTC)

Again, I think it is pretty fair to say this Essential Guide from way back has been overruled. There is no way the character in AC1 can be the same person as the one in the movie appearance-wise. -- Master Sima Yi Talk 20:58, January 29, 2017 (UTC)

Obviously his appearance in AC1 was long before Jeremy Irons got cast in the role. Can't we just make a note in the trivia section on how the movie retconned his appearance? Because unless we get some sort of official confirmation that the guy in AC1 wasn't Rikkin, the Essential Guide still stands. The Wikia Editor (talk) 22:04, January 29, 2017 (UTC)
Sources from Ubisoft themselves overrule anything in the series. The only reason it can't be him is because his change was never explained, something that's not officially unlike his confirmed appearance in AC1. It's a point that can be moved to the Trivia section.--ACsenior (talk) 21:52, January 29, 2017 (UTC)

I'll contact someone from the brand team when I get the chance. -- Master Sima Yi Talk 23:11, January 29, 2017 (UTC)

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