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There is this data dump scanner Abstergo worked on after Desmond escaped. It seems it can allow subjects to relieve the memories of a person that is not related to them by blood. I think Aveline could very well be this Eve´s ancestor after all. Kryptonian25 (talk) 19:44, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

you mean Eve's descendant Okanio Auditore (talk) 20:53, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Juno talked about someone who will be there to help Desmond. An 'Eve' another assassin or whatever like him with High First Civilization genes in her. She could be Aveline´s descendant.Kryptonian25 (talk) 21:08, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

It's totally Laetitia England. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie 21:26, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Well maybe there will be another assassin altogether (What we know of modern Assassins is so limited still, thankfully more time outside might change that). I know that several people are tired of tying Aveline in things because she's supposed to be Templar Propaganda or something, so I wouldn't wholly count on her being the key, but it is still possible for her to be vital to the story somehow. AlexAdler (talk) 21:50, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Assassins have their work cut out for them but they will prevail like they´ve done before. Kryptonian25 (talk) 22:41, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Let's see in October, if they do reveal what she/it refers to. Slate Vesper (talk) 22:45, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

OK. I know this a pretty strange idea... but what if Eve is Erudito? or part of Erudito? I know I haven't really got any evidence for it, but I like the idea. Also, if Eve is going to accompany Desmond through the gate she is going to need to have some knowledge on the assassins and Templars and everything that's going on. Erudito has plenty of knowledge. Undertaker96au (talk) 00:41, September 8, 2012 (UTC)Undertaker96au

I like it. Even though it was a big thing in Brotherhood and Project Legacy, people haven't been demanding on what Eurdito's role in AC: III is. If Eve is Erudito maybe she's been camping out in upstate New York messing with Abstergo, watching the Assassins just waiting for everything to unfold and for the action to come when the time is right. AlexAdler (talk) 01:06, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Why else would Desmond have to go back in the Animus? He knows what he needs to do... Find Eve. So maybe he goes back in time to find a descendant of Eve. And I think it's Aveline. Think about it. Whoevers reliving Avelines memories in the present day could be Eve... Maybe thats why on the Achievement List leak they go straight from Abstergo to the Vault. They break her out to help them get in. It makes sense since its been clarified whoever is reliving her memories is at Abstergo. Why else would they make Liberation anyway? To somehow tie in Eve, I think it's a good theory. Subject 8 (talk) 01:08, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Desmond does not go back in time. He relives the memories of his ancestors. The Animus is not a time machine. Slate Vesper (talk) 01:12, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Umm...Subject 8. You do know that the Animus reads genetic memory and projects them into a screen as if watching a movie? Desmond sees things that have already happened. Kryptonian25 (talk) 01:22, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

I thought Aveline was a fictional character. [1] Abstergo made another version of the animus, to be sold to the public (and this is what Liberations is). Aveline is a fictional character, based on various female role models in that time. If Aveline is fake, I doubt she had a real-life descendant. Undertaker96au (talk) 01:30, September 8, 2012 (UTC)Undertaker96au

I never said he time traveled... Maybe Avelines modern day descendant is Eve. That's what I meant. And I didn't think Aveline was fake, I thought they said she was just an employee or another Subject, such as Desmond or 16. It was just a theory. Subject 8 (talk) 01:49, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Read this. Assassin's Creed Liberations is a product made by Abstergo for the public. It is not being used by an individual subject or employee at Abstergo. It's being used by a member of the public who bought the commercialised version of the animus. I'm not entirely sure if she's fake or not, but I know it's a commercial product. Undertaker96au (talk) 02:14, September 8, 2012 (UTC)Undertaker96au

Oh thanks. I didn't know, I knew it was Abstergo since the sign showed up in some of the gameplay videos. But I thought it was someone at Abstergo. Subject 8 (talk) 02:21, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Unless, abstergo are recording the publics genetic memories to find out who has assassin ancestors, because didnt they say that some people would be immune to Eye-Abstergo? so these people would be the ones they had to find, and also its for abstergo to gather more information on the assassins, so its possible Aveline isnt fictional. KaiserC (talk) 12:39, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Nah, I think that Aveline did good stuff, but to the average person would seem bad. How long will people take to understand the simple fact: THERE IS NO MODERN DAY CHARACTER IN LIBERATIONS! WE ARE THE MODERN DAY CHARACTER. Thus, Eve is not the ancestor to Aveline. I am sure of it. Thank you for your time, good-bye. ThatRandomUser ~Lair of Randomness (Enter at own risk) 12:56, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

And i know Aveline is not fake because she is in the new AC encyclopedia like Acuila(don't remember his name).--ACsenior (talk) 12:59, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Just because she's in the encyclopedia, it doesn't mean she's real... Undertaker96au (talk) 13:02, September 8, 2012 (UTC)Undertaker96au

The Encyclopedia is Canon. Everything in it, is canon. Therefore, if Aveline is stated to be canon in the Encyclopedia, she is canon. ThatRandomUser ~Lair of Randomness (Enter at own risk) 13:07, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

my views of aveline and liberation hold that abstergo harvested the genetic memories from someone related to aveline and used them to create liberation, a recreation of those memories viewable/playable by anyone using the comercial animus. this process is somewhat similar to the way abstergo created both project legacy (using the DDS and relaying memories to public) and the MP animi avatars (using harvested memories to create playable avatars), both of which were like precursors or testing for the creation of what became libeation. whilst it is possible that it was eve the memories were harvested from, i would prefer if it was not. eve will be revealed come release, somthing to look forward to. Ægritudo Talk 13:25, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

uhh guys its possible for Aveline not to be fictional. Its makes since. I was confused as of who was reliving Aveline's memories but I came to a conclusion that it may be a Abstergo agent.

The real question would be how they would get her memories. But it was been said that Liberations is basically one giant Abstergo propaganda, so having her memories being played by an Abstergo Agent would not only be a nice twist, but help to explain why it’s connected to Abstergo in the first place. Also Aveline uses the Sixth sense. WhoYouCallinPinhead (talk) 14:22, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not saying that it's impossible for Aveline to be fake, nor am I saying that it's impossible for her to be real. It's just that I've seen several sources state that Aveline was a fictional character based off real characters, and that the characters she met were real. Also, several people have said this already, and it has been confirmed. Assassin's Creed Liberations is a commercialised product of the animus, designed for public use. That's how it's connected to Abstergo. In regards to how they got her memories, what Aegrudito said is likely. Abstergo could have gotten memories from a relative of Aveline, and modified them. Undertaker96au (talk) 14:32, September 8, 2012 (UTC)Undertaker96au

This is just all very confusing. When both games come out on October 30th watch as this whole forum is proven wrong. Everything we know is wrong. Erase it from your memory. Fin. BuonaFortuna (talk) 16:03, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Its likely Aveline did exist but Abstergo came up with a Data Dump Scanner, the user relives the memories of a person not related to them at all. Kryptonian25 (talk) 18:04, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

BuonaFortuna is totally right. This whole Aveline-Eve connection reeks of fanboy dreams, like the idea of Lucy being a Templar(I still can't believe Ubisoft went with such a cliche plot twist). If Aveline was Eve, I'm pretty sure she'd have a major role in ACIII, not in her own spinoff.

"What is a man but the sum of his memories?" (talk) 19:50, September 8, 2012 (UTC)


I guess someone forgotten about Daniel Cross. DC had a major role in the AC universe. Which the comics are spinoffs. Get your facts straight. 02:28, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

anon, you should follow what was said more closely, what they were talking about was if aveline has somthing to do with eve we would have seen her in ac3 rather than a seperate game, since finding eve is one of desmonds goals and that could not happen in a spin-off without des. Ægritudo Talk 11:18, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

If Aveline were fictional, then everything she did (assassinations and whatnot) didn't really happen and the people she supposedly came into contact with didn't really come into contact with anyone. Is she a "ghost" in the Animus? I highly doubt that. I think Liberation is Abstergo propaganda in that they try to use Aveline's life as an Assassin to make them look bad. Remember, she fought with Agate often and bumped heads with him; wouldn't that look ugly to those on the outside looking in? She did things he told her not to sometimes--in one of the trailers, she said she's walking through the dark or something to seek out the light. Maybe she had to do things that looked questionable, or maybe even contrary to Assassin beliefs to do the right thing? And we don't know if she's in AC III or not; they haven't said anything about her, so it may be a surprise for those buying AC III. Strang3Happ3nings 16:21, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

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