I was just wondering some of your theories for Connors backstory. I know it's been said his village gets burnt down by Colonists..l but if by Colonists, why does he side with them for the most part? I also think hell gave family and friends in and out of the village, and some will probably die due to the village burning. But I think hell escape and get caught by Charles Lee, due to the picture. Also, does anyone else think theyll somehow bring Lucy back in AC3? I honestly think they'll surprise us, I hope so anyway. They can't just ignore her death, The Lost Archives didn't explain everything. Subject 8 (talk) 02:16, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

It's been constantly noted that Connor doesn't specifically side with the colonists - he only helps them if their needs or goals coincide. Regarding Lucy, I seriously doubt she'll have any appearance (even for a flashback if any) though she may be mentioned by Vidic or some source from Abstergo.

Also, what exactly did you want the Lost Archives to explain that they missed? Seemed pretty conclusive to me. =GuardDog 02:20, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

I mean, why would he help them at all after they burned his home? And I don't know, some of it seemed weird. Like how Lucy didn't answer Vidic, but somehow Rebecca did? I thought they'd at least have proof. Subject 8 (talk) 02:36, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe Connor's just rational, and doesn't automatically condemn every single colonist just because a specific group of them wronged him.

And okay, you lost me, I have no idea what "proof" you're looking for. If you're referring to the trailer for Lost Archive when you say Rebecca answered Vidic, I don't think that actually happened in-universe. They likely just didn't have access to Lucy's voice actress, and substituted Rebecca's instead (given Lucy doesn't have any actual speaking lines in Revelations). =GuardDog 04:59, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

I believe Alex answered that, Connor fights with those whose goals coincide with the Assassins´ goals and I think those Colonialists will likely be a garrison controlled by the leader of the American Templars. He´s not driven by revenge like Ezio was, he´s a do-gooder someone who fights for justice and battles tyranny and he´s humble. As for that picture I have no idea some interpret that as Charles Lee being the leader of the American Templars but some say it could be the start of a life long friendship and its Lee recruiting Connor into the Assassin Order.Kryptonian25 (talk) 13:12, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

I mean proof as in proof how Lucy's actually working with Abstergo. Sure they had that one thing in TLA but knowing UbiSoft they probably used it to mindf*ck us. Lucy was raised on the same farm as Desmond, and trained by his dad until he decided to send her off on her own. Eventually she infiltrated Abstergo. And by the sound of Williams voice in Revelations, he has no remorse for her death. You'd think he would, training her so young. So I think she's not really dead, and he knows this. He could have Shaun and Rebecca playing along so Desmond can focus on what he needs in the black room. And as for Connor, I know they've said he's not on the colonial side of the war, but I mean I think he wouldn't trust them if they burned his village and George Washington is their leader. Subject 8 (talk) 15:48, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Ubisof did say they will mention Lucy and her betraial in some way. Ion53 (talk) 16:57, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

I really don´t see how Lucy could survive a hidden blade into her abdomen she bled out. She´s dead I think people should come to grips that and she was a traitor. The DLC was proof enough of her betrayal I get she was your favorite character. But William likely knew of her betrayal that´s why he didn´t feel anything about her death. Connor does NOT trust the colonials he says that in the trailer he says they fight for freedom but he questions for whom? But for Lucy she became disllusioned from everything and defected to the Templars, she was going to give the apple and the footage from the Animus to the Templars possibly having Shaun and Rebecca killed. I understand people expect a twist but that´s it. I think Vidic will mention Lucy betrayed the Assassins. But how would William know Lucy isn´t dead, she was buried in a cemetary outside Rome Shaun said so besides Desmond was in a coma. Its the same with Ezio people think there is a twist behind his death and that it will be resolved but he´s gone he died naturally. Kryptonian25 (talk) 18:52, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Has anybody else considered that Lucy's death was a trick of the Apple considering all the blinding light at the end of Brotherhood? We could have been tricked by Juno and Lucy is still alive and possibly but unlikely this "Eve" that Desmond has to find.Auditore8296 (talk) 19:07, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

She is not my favorite character, I just want a good conclusion to it in AC3. And I agree with Auditore, it could have been a trick of the apple. Like al Muslim did to Altair. Subject 8 (talk) 19:48, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

No trick, Juno took over Desmond´s body since she knew Lucy was a traitor and forced him to kill her. Besides Shaun saw her body. The only conclusion I see is Vidic mentioning her defection to the Templars Juno mentioned 'Eve' is not within their sight its not Lucy I know people expect a mindfvck but that´s it shes dead. Kryptonian25 (talk) 19:51, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

You don't know that, he was holding the apple when he stabbed her just like al Muslim. It's not positive she's dead, Shaun could have said that knowing Desmond could hear so he thinks lucys dead and maybe hell try to hurry up and get back in time. Subject 8 (talk) 20:31, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

How would Shaun know that? All he knew was Desmond was in a coma. Desmond was holding the apple but he was not in control Juno was she forced Desmond to kill Lucy. Kryptonian25 (talk) 20:58, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

William could have told him. He trusts Shaun, he told him he'd like the rank of mentor. He said in an email "you'd love it, it has lots of... History." so I guarantee William somehow knew why Desmond fell into a coma. And about those who came before.

Seems you all are forgetting who told Desmond that Lucy was dead. Clay, Subject 16. Why would he lie to Desmond, or going by the "William and Shaun are trying to trick him" theory, why would he be helping those two, and how would they even know he's in the animus? Alright, maybe Clay overheard them lying to unconscious Desmond... somehow. There's another thing, why would Shaun and William feel the need to lie that way? If it were really to get Desmond out of his coma quicker as was suggested, it doesn't make any sense for them to pretend that she's already dead. It'd be a better motivator if they said that she was in 'critical condition'. That theory doesn't really add up...

Foreborn (talk) 22:49, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

She's Dead Jackadorspartacus (talk) 00:46, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

There is no conspiracy behind it, people believe its a twist from Ubisoft. The twist was that Lucy was a Templar she defected to the Templars and was going to double cross the team as soon as they got the apple but Juno took over Desmond´s body it wasn´t a Trick from the Apple. She´s dead. Kryptonian25 (talk) 20:52, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

Listen everyone, Lucy is not dead the person who Desmond killed was a imposter of Lucy. If you don't believe me then look at Lucy's left ring finger in ac1 and in ac2 and brotherhood you can see that she didn't have it in 1 but in ac2 and acb she did. Think about it. (71.215.112.69 23:34, September 6, 2012 (UTC))

Lucy is dead and gone. She never lost her finger in AC1. She bent it back to signify to Desmond that she was an Assassin, in order to lull him into a false sense of security.

Personally, I don't feel Ubisoft pulled off the Lost Archive in a convincing way, but I at least accept that she was a Templar like it was supposed to reveal. I wish some people would stop clinging to their stubborn hope that Lucy is alive so that Desmond can have a girlfriend and the world is perfect and fine with rainbows and sprinkles and the Templars are defeated for good. Slate Vesper (talk) 00:15, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Exactly. Desmond may stop the solar flare, the satellite launch on the same day since I think both those events will happen at the same time and kill a few Templars but I believe Lucy was right about one thing, the war will never end. Kryptonian25 (talk) 02:01, September 7, 2012 (UTC)